It is an unbelievable feeling when you hold your baby. Our son was also born in Ukraine through surrogacy). Previously we were dealing with infertility long 3 years. Due to a number of failed IVF attempts, my husband and I made the decision to investigate surrogacy and joined Surrogacy in Ukrainian. The clinic was quite ok for such price (around 30,000 euros for everything). It was some cons but it wasn
t so huge. Lines to the doctors office were really exhausted but we were ready to do everything at that time. Believe me, temporary unpleasantness you forgot when you will see your newborn baby. The big advantage of the Ukrainian surrogacy is its legality.
I have been through surrogacy in Bio tex, Ukraine and I can say that the feeling is so fulfilling.
Many intended parents who choose surrogacy do so because they’re struggling with infertility, either because of genetics, because they’re a same-sex couple who cannot have children on their own, or because they are single. The disappointment and stigma of infertility can be harsh, which is why surrogacy gives parents a chance to overcome these issues and successfully have biological children. Raising a child from birth: Surrogacy gives intended parents the chance to not only raise their child from the moment they’re born but also actively be involved in the pregnancy. Not all adoptions can offer the same advantages. Being involved every step of the way: Intended parents are able to be a part of every milestone of their surrogate pregnancy, from embryo transfer to their child’s birth. This way, intended parents can experience the pregnancy process in a way they may have never originally dreamed they could. Building a special relationship with the surrogate: While surrogacy is technically a business transaction, it’s much more to intended parents and surrogates. Usually, intended parents will form an intimate bond with their surrogate as they learn more about her and her family throughout the surrogacy process.
Just superb, hun, I’m so happy for you!! May your tiny ladies come to this world healthy and happy.
You’ve had enough, luv, god love you poor thing with your cancer sufferings…But god blessed you. I know the situation with surrogacy in Japan. In my opinion it shouldn’t be banned as it gives hope of parenthood for so many infertile couples! But the things are like they are. This is nice you chose Ukraine as destination. Friends of mine passed surrogacy there 2 yrs ago and were blessed with a lovely baby girl. We asked more how the process went for them there and realized there were super options at the clinic for our case. So we started research on ivf with donor egg there and soon found ourselves at the same biotex like them. We tried 2 shots with own egg home first but never got success. We put in yrs and huge money sums with no luck ever! That was frustrating to get to know we could save double price if went to biotex from the very begining!! This struggling is a huge investment always. We were lucky to get our baby after 2 shots with them. Then thought we wanted more kids. So currently are back to the process for a sibling with the same clinic. Wish me good luck.
Hi lovelies! Have found this recently on the internet. Thought it might be useful for those looking seriously onto surrogacy. Questions to ask your clinic~
How long has the program been in operation? Does the program maintain a referral listing of previous client couples? Does the program recruit its own surrogates? Through what means? Will they work with a surrogate recruited by the couple themselves? How are surrogates expenses handled? Is there a cap on these expenses? Does the program offer medical screening of the surrogate? To what extent? Who does the screening? Does medical screening include an AIDS test of surrogate and her partner? Is gestational surrogacy (also called surrogate IVF, host uterus) as well as traditional surrogacy available? What are the costs of surrogacy (traditional, gestational or donor)? What is the fee payment structure? What are the financial obligations incurred by the couple? What is the payment schedule? How long are the surrogate’s medical records kept? Does the program offer psychological screening and counseling to all parties? To what extent? Does the program offer on-site medical services (insemination or IVF) or do they work with local physicians and hospitals? How many babies have been born through the agency/clinic’s surrogacy programs? To what extent is contact between the surrogate and the couple encouraged? (By letter, meeting face-to-face, on-going?) Can the couple be present at the birth? What type of legal counsel is offered to the surrogate and the couple? Does this include the drawing up of contracts?
Which country is better to go? Recently Ukraine has become the best destination. This is 'cause of the surrogacy friendly law there. IP are considered to be the only legal parents of the baby from the moment of conception! The surro has no right to keep the baby after delivery. Then affordable prices. You might opt for 2 shots program for 39k euros. Or ‘‘guaranteed’’ 5 shots (unlimited number of attempts) for 49k euros. The clinic we’ve been with has its packages all inclusive. Meaning you’ll have all meds needed included into the package price. All legal support. Donor eggs (if needed) for no extra fee. Surro mother choice from their large database. You might also get ther special ‘‘guarantee’’. meaning you’re given 5 shots. if you fail to conceive within those 5 rounds, they’ll refund money back. (the point is that you’ll get a baby no matter how many attempts is needed for that). There are many repro centers in Ukraine. But I 'll definitely recommend Bio texcom. 'Cause I have personal experience with it. Attarctive sets of services. All inclusive plans. ‘‘Guaranteed’’ options. Large donor/surro database. 70% success rate. Legal support. The best experienced team. Affordable prices. How long it takes to find sm? - It depends on the package you sign up for. If it’s VIP it will take up to 3-4 wks to find the right surro for you. It won’t take you yrs. 'Cause a lot of women participate in the programs there. Some surros come back to the clinic for more programs.
Surrogacy legislation in both countries we were opting (Georgia and Ukraine) is quite favourable for IP. They have specific set of laws to protect IPs’ rights and the rights of SM. Intended mother provides medical certificate proving her disability to carry pregnancy on her own. Restrictions for SMs are also set by law: Age 18-39. Being absolutely healthy and having at least one healthy child.
What we liked is that SM has no right to change her mind and keep the baby after delivery. IPs are considered to be biological parents of the child. Birth certificate is issued with the names of IPs as parents, no name of SM mentioned. It was very important for us.
Then considering the contract conditions and fees. I found reproductive clinics’ directory on the web with their contact info and websites. Some websites provided service and price info, some didn’t, so I had to email them. The prices were different. The same were the conditions. When considering surrogacy fees, one should ask consultant if the price is final and what extra fees are, if any. Also the number of attempts they provide. Also if medications are covered by your contract. Some clinics assign lower price. But then it is actually doubled with costs of all medications needed. We decided to proceed with Ukrainian clinics, based on positive reviews and surrogacy experience in this country. Besides it was cheaper and quicker for us to travel to Ukraine.
I do not know if you will see this message or not, but I had to stop here and say that I have also signed a contract with a Ukrainian agency. I think that it is a bit new to the market compared to the competition. However somehow I think we did a right choice.
It’d be awesome to talk to you privately about this stuff. As I have only managed to find a few facebook groups that were closed and unwelcoming to the newbies.
What is your clinic? I am with WCOB, I do not know if you have heard of that yet.
I’m with BioTexCom, Kiev. Here’s the overall treatment plan with them to expect.~
The initial consultation is to be scheduled at least 1 week ahead and contains the following activities:
A set of tests depending on the program (fasting is mandatory).
Consultation with a fertility specialist who will be in charge of your program (in case of stimulation you will need to have the transvaginal ultrasound check done).
Consultation with a manager who will guide you through the program step by step.
Signing of contracts.
First payment (if you are taking medications for stimulation from the clinic, the medications are to be paid in cash on the day of consultation).
Before any initial consultation you will receive the Guidelines for the Initial Consultation – failure to follow these recommendations may affect the initial consultation in a negative way.
After you sign contracts and make the first payment, the medical team starts the selection process that includes:
Initial pre-selection by the local coordinator.
Consultation of the fertility specialist in Bio texcom in Kiev.
Consultation of a psychologist.
Legal consultation and verification of documents.
screening for possible addictions (urine and blood tests).
This check-up process, including all necessary tests and exams, takes about 1 month.
The cycle of egg donor or the biological mother is synchronised with the cycle of a surrogate mother. According to your contract you have to follow all doctors instruction. In case of self-treatment or violation of the treatment protocol, the clinic may cancel the cycle and terminate the contract.
The date of the pick up is scheduled by the doctor in charge of the program.
The Intended Parents are informed about it beforehand (at least 5 days before).
If the Intended Parents wish to use previously frozen sperm sample for fertilisation they shall notify the program coordinator about that by email no later than 24 hours before the procedure
If it is the second/further attempt and more than 2.5 months has passed since your last blood test in the clinic, please be ready to have your blood test repeated, and that means fasting in the morning
In case the biological mother undergoes hormonal stimulation and is being prepared for egg retrieval, the second visit may take up to 10 days.
If we are talking about surrogacy using own eggs it is not recommended to leave the same day. Flying the following day is fine.
The rules for sperm donation are similar as for the initial consultation – a man needs to abstain from ejaculation from 3 to 5 days before.
The second payment (according to your contract) is to be made on this day if in cash, prior to this day if by the bank transfer.
After fertilisation the embryo development is monitored by our embryology unit.
The embryo transfer takes place on the 5th day as we are transferring the blastocysts.
You will receive the protocol of embryo cultivation and transfer within 3 working days after the embryo transfer.The HCG test takes place 2 weeks after the embryo transfer. The surrogate mother has her test in Bio texcom. The results of the test are known the day after the test.
The first ultrasound scan is carried out in 2 weeks after the positive HCG test by the doctor in charge of the program. The report will be send the same or the next day after the check.
What you can expect during pregnancy monitorying:
Monthly ultrasound checks from the 12th week of pregnancy. Reports along with video and/or pictures will be send the same or the next day. For trisomy screenings, results will be send within 5 working days.
Trisomy 13, 18, 21 – on the 12th week of pregnancy
Trisomy 18, 21 – on the 16th week of pregnancy
If you will be present during the delivery (only available in the VIP Surrogacy package) you need to come prior to delivery to undergo the medical tests. You will be informed about right time to come by your program coordinator.
When your surrogate mother is going for planned hospitalisation your program coordinator will let you know. This may give you the idea of what is the best time to come.
As a rule if the delivery is in a natural way the baby will be discharged in 3-4 days from the maternity house. In case of twins or c-section it might take up to 7 days for the babies to stay in the maternity house. In case of premature birth or any complications, the baby(s) obviously stay in the hospital for a longer period.
If your contract is Standard – you will be visiting the baby during the daytime. If your contract is VIP Surrogacy – you will be staying in the hospital with a baby in a separate room.
In order to obtain the birth certificate you will need to have your marriage certificate apostilled in the country that issued that marriage certificate. For countries that are not participants of the Hague Convention, abolishing the Requirement of Legalisation for Foreign Public Documents (Apostille convention) – the marriage certificate should be legalised. Apostille is not the same as legalisation. You may click the following link in order to check if your country is the participant of the Hague Convention** **https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostille_Convention
If the name on your marriage certificate differs in any way from the name on your passport (e.g. there is a middle name on one or not the other, or surnames differ) – you need to obtain an official intermediate document confirming your identity. Failure to provide such document may cause your process delay. Your program coordinator will advise you with all such issues.
In order to obtain the birth certificate both intended parents need to be present in the country
The birth certificate will be submitted for apostillation, translation and notarisation.
After the birth certificate is obtained the embassy process starts
The clinic provides you full documentary support of the exit process
The embassy process differs for every country, so the waiting time is different for every particular case
Some of the Embassies will require additional DNA test performed on their premises – this additional DNA test is not covered by the clinic
It is recommend that you agree all of your actions associated with the exit process with your program coordinator.
Hi, we also chose Ukraine for our surrogacy journey. I am completely satisfied with the services of our clinic, Adonis. And we got success, the surrogacy helped us to become parents of our little Tommy. And what clinic did you use? We also were searching a lot of time, there are so many clinics.
Hey there. We had been trying for 5 years unsuccessfully. And I felt like had tried pretty much everything out there. We did do 4 rounds of IUI which were unsuccessful and did 2 failed rounds of IVF. We decided to do IUI’s first because we wanted to eliminate all possibilities and work our way up to doing IVF if we had to. In my personal experience if you can’t seem to get pregnant with your first round of IVF there is absolutely no reason to try IUI.
IUI is such a crap shoot of a method. They are just squirting semen into your uterus. Hoping something takes. We just thought it ended up being a big waste of time/money. Plus clomid, personally made me bat shit crazy, I hated that stuff. That being said the IUI rounds are significantly cheaper to do than IVF. If it’s for financial reasons you are considering trying IUI, sure go for it. But if where ever you are the three IUI’s are close to the same price as an IVF round I say forget about it and just go straight for IVF. Just a thought for today. Sending positive vibes your way, ladies.
Hi, Chris3! Congrats with your LO!
We used Bio tex com. You may visit their official site for the details. You might know from my previous posts here we were dealing with secondary infertility. Meaning we already have a 7 yo son and were moving IVF path to conceive our baby#2. That was painful though, mostly emotional. We experienced 4 failed rounds in the UK which took us years and LOADS of money. So had to switch looking for more affordable treatments. You know, I’ve always thought that secondary infertility is not the issue. I truly felt angry with lovelies venting they couldn’t conceive their #2. I thought ‘‘what else do you want?!!’’ But when I found myself one day in the same boat I understood, secondary is no less painful…So, I’m currently prego with #2 (1st trimester). I cannot believe we did it!! Still, I wanna share the piece of news I’ve recently read on our clinic’s site. (Have already shared this on other threads, because do think this method is gonna be awesome and the info helpful for those who are doing research.) They offer women 40 + and those with low AMH or multiple failed OE IVF cycles a completely innovative procedure. it’s called mitochondrial replacement therapy. Mitochondrion is one of the most important components of any living cell, including the egg. In simple words, mitochondrion is the cell’s energy station. Essentially, its work consists in supplying the cell with vital energy for its normal functioning. And if it’s weak or ‘‘unhealthy’’ it cannot supply the needed amount of energy to the egg. This leads to the failure.
So the core of the method is extracting the healthy mitochondrion from the donor’s egg and placing it back to the intended mom’s egg in order to make her egg stronger, renewed. To carry out such a procedure, an egg donor with a high functional activity of mitochondria (a blastocyst production rate of 70% or more), a patient (willing to get pregnant), and sperm for in vitro fertilization are required. Healthy functionally active mitochondria are taken from a donor’s oocyte and integrated with the patient’s cells. Next, fertilization with sperm and transfer of a healthy embryo into the patient’s uterus is performed.
This way you get genetically related to you baby!!! (though you do use donor’s help, mitochondria does not affect the DNA of the future baby!)
May I ask, are you already on the route to baby#2? In any case let me wish you all the very best of luck. and if I’m of any help, please, let me know. God bless you.
Thank you for sharing this. I read a lot about DNA, talked to the doctors about that and they explained that, actually, Mitochondrial DNA and Human DNA are slightly different things. It only gives that necessary energy to the oocyst and helps with developing an embryo and make it stronger. DNA is in the core of the mitochondria, which are not used for donation. Therefore, genetically, mitochondria have no effect on the embryo.
April last year we optioned for surgery in hoping that we would then be able to get pregnant naturally afterwards. My Dr cleaned up a good chunk of the endo and drained a cyst I had on my left ovary (that being less invasive than completely removing it for my ovary). Three months later in July I am being rushed to the emergency in beyond immense pain.it took the doctors there over 24 hrs to figure out what was wrong with me, turns out that cyst re-filled and ruptured (holly F balls that hurt like nothing I have ever been through before) so had to have the exact same surgery I just had three months prior to fix everything. That was a ton on me. The only good thing about it is that I was still able to produce some viable eggs. Our further road narrowed to surrogacy with them. Here’s what I wanted to share with you. There are still a couple of countries you may go to in order to apply for surrogacy. Where it’s absolutely legal and covers you from all the risks. Anyway, from where you’re staying now you’d better consult a reputable attorney on the point. not to be misled.
Before choosing a destination, find out:
What legal protections if any does the jurisdiction offer to intended parents and surrogates?
Is transfer of legal parentage available in the jurisdiction in question?
What are the eligibility criteria for surrogacy (Do you need to be a citizen of that country? Is it available to single men? Gay couples? Unmarried heterosexual couples?)
How long are the exit requirements post birth?
Is surrogate compensation allowed?
Is Health insurance available for the surrogate and any post birth complications?
Are contracts legally enforceable?
What Neo-Natal Intensive Care Facilities are available?
What do these cost?
Can the intended parents be present at the birth?
Hope this helps.
I’ve shared this with lovelies on the threads. Hope it helps someone seeking for answers about surrogacy in Ukraine this link is just amazing~~
oursurrogacyblog.wordpress.com It is absolutely awesome for the details of surrogacy treatment for the UK citizens in particular. In brief, surrogacy process in Ukraine goes on like this:
Initial consultation. It usually contains the following activities: A set of tests depending on the program (fasting is mandatory). Consultation with a fertility specialist who will be in charge of your program (in case of stimulation you will need to have the transvaginal ultrasound check done). Consultation with a manager who will guide you through the program step by step. Signing of contracts. Before any initial consultation you will receive the Guidelines for the Initial Consultation – failure to follow these recommendations may affect the initial consultation in a negative way. Search & confirmation of a surrogate mother, matching process. Waiting time depends on the type of contact. Stimulation & synchronisation stage (about 2 weeks). The cycle of egg donor or the biological mother is synchronised with the cycle of a surrogate mother. According to your contract you have to follow all doctors instruction. In case of self-treatment or violation of the treatment protocol, the clinic may cancel the cycle and terminate the contract. Fertilization day, embryo transfer – the 2nd visit. In case the biological mother undergoes hormonal stimulation and is being prepared for egg retrieval, the second visit may take up to 10 days. If we are talking about surrogacy using own eggs it is not recommended to leave the same day. Flying the following day is fine.The rules for sperm donation are similar as for the initial consultation – a man needs to abstain from ejaculation from 3 to 5 days before. After fertilisation the embryo development is monitored by embryology unit. The embryo transfer takes place on the 5th day. You will receive the protocol of embryo cultivation and transfer within 3 working days after the embryo transfer. HCG test, pregnancy confirmation. The first ultrasound scan is carried out in 2 weeks after the positive HCG test by the doctor in charge of the program. The report will be send the same or the next day after the check.
Pregnancy monitoring. Delivery. Obtaining of the birth certificate for the baby (up to 1 week).
Your two week wait (2ww) starts the day of your transfer. If you have a 5 day transfer, you will likely get a positive pregnancy test 2 days earlier than with a 3 day transfer. This is because the 5 day embryo is more developed!!
I believe that’s why bio tex com conducts only fresh cycles. as the chances are proved to be much higher. I’m glad for those who’ve already got their luck through surrogacy and praying for those who’re just at the beginning of the process. May god bless all of you.
Thank you for sharing this link.
I can add surrogacybiotexcom.blogspot.com link. All the posts and videos there are informative. One of those which make me truly aware was ‘‘Top mistakes IP do when undergoing surrogacy’’ There Anastasia, Head of English Department, is talking about common problems caused by mistakes our patients can make when they are going through surrogacy, in order to make the surrogacy process at BioTexCom more positive. Here is the list of some issues mentioned, am pasting here @@
- You do not read attached documents and do not follow the recommendations there. 2. You do not provide full information, especially when we talk about assessment of possibility of stimulation 3. You do not check visa arrangements between our countries 4. You do not confirm the dates of initial consultation before booking of your tickets 5. In case of ovarian stimulation you ignore our requirement to obtain authorization for hormonal stimulation, especially if there were oncological diseases or heart/kidney/blood conditions. 6. You arrange the things to be finished exactly by the day of delivery indicated in the ultrasound check , without supposition that it might be premature delivery, or normal delivery but on the 36th or 38th week 7. You ignore our recommendations to visit special classes for new parents while you’re still at home and when you come here you’re scared of your own babies 8. You ignore the final checklist of our coordinators – with exact and very clear recommendations what documents have to be prepared from your side for the exit process 9. You do not use the benefits of our emergency 24/7 helpline and become frustrated of coordinators not answering you in the middle of the night 10. You do not provide exact instructions to housekeeping staff and babysitter 11. You do not follow doctor’s protocol and start self-treatment 12. You do not inform us about changing of your plans and/or time limits 13. You expect that the date of the second visit will be calculated during the initial consultation 14. You expect us to do miracles and achieve pregnancy from 1 shipped embryo of poor quality 15. You want to pay and book egg donor earlier than you come for the initial consultation 16. Logistics: arranging logistics the very last moment 17. Incorrect understanding of such concept as waiting time – not from when you signed, but from when you paid 18. When you get scared after program coordinator invites you to the procedure and you have the sperm frozen in the clinic 19. Embryoprotocol date – when you expect it to be sent the same day. Lab may finish their work late 20. Public maternity house doesn’t mean that it is going to be a bad maternity house 21. Please mind the time difference – we work with the whole world.
Just useful to keep in mind, isn’t it?
@millie1, Thank you for sharing this information with us. It’s useful. So that IP could know what should be done/not done to make the process eaiser and faster for all sides. I know couples who’ve been successfully through surrogacy in Ukraine. We passed DE IVF treatments there. But where seriously counting on surrogacy as the last resort in case IVF fails. So asked the people why they choose Ukraine for surrogacy. The answers were the same - affordable prices and the popularity of the procedure. Many women participate in surrogacy nowadays there. They all have different reasons, but I really don’t care much why they do it…The fact is that the law of the country is surrogacy friendly. IP are considered to be the only legal parents of the baby conceived. The surrogate has no right to keep the baby after she delivers him/her. Which is the major factor for me. The baby’s yours, no one will go to court and say it’s vice versa. The link provided is also great.
Thanks for sharing your experience about Surrogacy.
Greetings! highly respect your choice. It’s absolutely your personal business. The deal your make and your responsibility. I hope for equal understanding. I write this because I have recently received many offensive replies on some forum just because I said I was going to go to Ukraine.
I’m not guilty I can’t afford the US with its offering. I noticed many of you have also posted about Ukrainian clinics. You seemed as very active posters. My story won’t be that long and consistent. However, I believe it will be helpful as well for those who seek a reliable option in Ukraine. I’m after hysterectomy. My uterus had to be removed due to cancer I suffered from 3 years ago. My husband and I want to become parents regardless of the circumstances.
Hi, honey. You are not alone!! And I am so glad that I am not either! Reading your post helped me too. It is true that we have to go through these processes and injections in hormones alone, but one thing that’s been helping me in the last few days is to focus on the next step. The next shot, whatever it is. I think that will help because then it’s not the huge process staring you in the face, but just the next challenge and then celebrating it when you finish it as a victory. I read a blog post lately that said that the key to getting through all of this is celebrating every little victory that you have.
All of this feels like a huge uphill battle and sometimes I think about just saying forget it, but I know that I can do this and I do want to have a family. I hope that you are able to get some rest and to feel some comfort for yourself this weekend, thank you for writing back to me. It’s good to know that we are not alone.
I’ve mentioned in my previous posts we passed OE surrogacy in BioTex, Kiev. Here are some of the keypoints to focus on if you happen considering them too. They achieve positive results due to day by day improving techniques. Their embryologists work with fresh genetic material (eggs/sperm cryopreservation is used only at patient’s will). Such approach automatically multiplies chances for the successful fertilization. It is known and proven that quality of eggs gets worse during the freezing process leading to the failed IVF attempts. In addition to the spermogram doctors conduct sperm analysis for apoptosis. Conducting this medical test embryologist determines presence of the damaged sperm cells which prevent successful conception and can cause child’s DNA damage. In the case of cells’ poor quality, doctor prescribes appropriate medication, afterwards perform reanalysis and successfully fertilize the egg. Karyotype analysis is the part of a standard analyzes set (karyotype test shows the total number of chromosomes, the sex of the person being studied, and if there are any structural abnormalities with any of the individual chromosomes which can cause child’s diseases). Conducting programs of the egg donation and surrogate motherhood doctors calculate the ideal “window of implantation”. This is the most successful period for the embryo transfer without disturbing its structure and endometrium integrity. Starting to work with the infertile couple, their specialists use only individual approach in each case. First of all, members of the medical staff carry out detailed diagnostics of patients in order to identify clearly the seeds of the disease or reasons of the unsuccessful IVF attempts. There are no identical protocols as BioTex team does not work in the traces. Because positive result of any medical program is their main goal! Doctors of the Kiev center walk the line of the latest methods of treatment. So, for example, embryologists use the most successful method of working with blastocysts, namely, embryo transfer on the fifth day. It greatly increases the chance of pregnancy during the in vitro fertilization programs.
I hope this might be useful for those seeking for answers.
Ladies, I’ll definitely agree!! Ukraine is a surrogacy friendly country. I know that a surrogate there has no right to keep a baby after its birth. You know, too many controversial stories on boards where parents say their surrogate pretends she’s changed her mind and wants to keep a baby. That’s awful. Intended parents who suffer a lot and pay out of their pockets shouldn’t be treated like that. So being in ones’ shoes I’d look onto Ukraine at least because of its legislative base and high success surrogacy rates among clinics.