Hey, I hope you’re doing good. 10 days is a very long time. You are indeed a very strong woman. I am happy that your husband is supportive. If you think this procedure is for you then you should opt for it. Make sure you are properly researched. In many areas, the process is illegal so make sure the place you visit everything is being done there legally. Apart from that make sure that the clinic is providing you with the child’s documents. This is something I have been told is very important. Also, make sure that the surrogate is chosen after a proper procedure. The clinics ensure that the surrogate already has children doesn’t drink and does not have any past illness. Make sure the clinic you visit has these criteria as well. Apart from that clinics also do a medical test on the surrogate to ensure she has no illness. This again is very important for the baby and the surrogates safety. Best of luck to you I hope everything goes fine.
I hope you are doing well and good. I felt deep sorrow to know about your infertility problem. You are not alone in this journey. We are in the same boat. many ladies are trying their best to cope with this issue. Stay strong and hope for the best. It filled my heart with joy that you are going for surrogacy. Baby dust at your doorsteps. Good luck to you and best wishes too!
So sad to hear that you are also infertile. Its problem is too much nowadays. Many people are worried because of this problem. Sometimes it happens that doctors either can’t judge the problem. Sometimes the problem is undefined. 10 years is really long period. People usually lose hope after 3,4 years. You are so brave that you tried for 10 years. It’s good that at least you have found the solution to your problem. Surrogacy is really a good treatment. Many people have tried this treatment. And they all succeed in it. And yes condition of the clinic also really matters. And Ukraine is really good for this infertile treatments. Biotexcom is the best clinic there. You should really go for it. Best of luck. May your wish comes true.
Hi, luv! There is so much pain in your post, I can hardly breathe. 10 yrs of unsuccessful tries must be heartbreaking. You’re so brave to face. I’m so proud you don’t give up and keep on moving. I guess using surrogacy option is the best for you. I hope you’re well treated at biotexcom. Guys there are awesome.We’re currently waiting for the ET. Planned 2 5day blasts - feeling nervous and excited at the same time. Hope we’ll be both successful with the clinic. PS: This time we’re working for the sibling
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately IP can face various problems with clinics throughout the world. Ukraine is not the acception. Like any other country. That’s why it’s so important to get good feedback on the point and talk to more people about this or that clinic before even contacting one. You did so right by writing this precaution. Also the thing you’re doing for people is awesome! May God bless you!
I have also undergone surrogacy in Bio tex clinic in Ukraine. I can say taht they are the best. Affordable and quality services. However, the hundreds of families who have completed the surrogacy process will assure you that the pros of surrogacy extend far beyond that. Here are just a few of the advantages of surrogacy for intended parents: For those who have struggled with infertility, LGBT couples, and those with medical conditions that make pregnancy unsafe, surrogacy is often the answer to years of unsuccessful attempts to create a family. Gestational surrogacy often enables one or both parents to maintain a biological relationship with their child. Many intended parents become close with their surrogate and her family during the process, developing meaningful bonds that can last a lifetime. A legally binding contract outlining everyone’s expectations will be negotiated and signed prior to the embryo transfer, so everyone will know exactly what to expect during the surrogacy process. A court order is obtained prior to birth of the child, confirming the intended parents’ legal rights.
I’m happy for you, noreen. Since a friend of mine is seriously considering coming to Ukrainian biotexcom for surrogacy, I’m looking for some reviews for her. As As far as I know surrogacy process with them goes like this.
Initial consultation. It usually contains the following activities: A set of tests depending on the program (fasting is mandatory). Consultation with a fertility specialist who will be in charge of your program (in case of stimulation you will need to have the transvaginal ultrasound check done). Consultation with a manager who will guide you through the program step by step. Signing of contracts. Before any initial consultation you will receive the Guidelines for the Initial Consultation – failure to follow these recommendations may affect the initial consultation in a negative way.
Search & confirmation of a surrogate mother, matching process. Waiting time depends on the type of contact.
Stimulation & synchronisation stage (about 2 weeks). The cycle of egg donor or the biological mother is synchronised with the cycle of a surrogate mother. According to your contract you have to follow all doctors instruction. In case of self-treatment or violation of the treatment protocol, the clinic may cancel the cycle and terminate the contract.
Fertilization day, embryo transfer - the 2nd visit. In case the biological mother undergoes hormonal stimulation and is being prepared for egg retrieval, the second visit may take up to 10 days. If we are talking about surrogacy using own eggs it is not recommended to leave the same day. Flying the following day is fine.The rules for sperm donation are similar as for the initial consultation – a man needs to abstain from ejaculation from 3 to 5 days before. After fertilisation the embryo development is monitored by embryology unit. The embryo transfer takes place on the 5th day. You will receive the protocol of embryo cultivation and transfer within 3 working days after the embryo transfer.
HCG test, pregnancy confirmation. The first ultrasound scan is carried out in 2 weeks after the positive HCG test by the doctor in charge of the program. The report will be send the same or the next day after the check.
Pregnancy monitoring. Delivery. Obtaining of the birth certificate for the baby (up to 1 week).
Please do correct if I’m mistaken. Then I’m more interested in how smooth the process went for you. Whether you’re satisfied with drs/nurses, lab’s work. Did you undergo it with own egg or donor egg? How long did you have to wait for the actual start of the procedure? What requirements did you have for your surrogate. How old is she? Everything one must be interested in when stepping into this field.
Here’s some of my background. Me 40; DH 45. DX - PCOS, endo, one ovary and tube; MFI. (This is so called 3rd type PCOS. In the third type in the patient there is more than one ovarian cyst that has been engorged for a long period of time, resulting in size and shape permanence of the cysts. This type of PCOS is common with severe diagnoses of endometriosis, any form of extensive surgery in the pelvic region, and chronic pelvic inflammatory disease. Women do not respond to fertility drugs with overactive or hyperstimulation but instead are considered to be poor responders to the drugs.) Oct 2008: Mike is here! 7lbs 14oz, 20.75 inches; C-Section.
TTC #2 since Sept 2015. BFN= 3 IVFs. IVF#4 – early mc @6w4d, June 2018. Last IVF #5 (5dt of two 2AA blasts) – BFP!!
Beta #1, 11dp5dt= 295.
Beta #2, 13dp5dt= 825 (doubling time of 32 hours!); progesterone 130.
Last time we were using donor eggs at Ukrainian clinic bio texcom. Quite far away from home. But the clinic was doing its best to make our say with them comfortable and the most effective. We’ve just had 7wks scan. That was so lovely!!!
The thing which amazed us was how clean everything was! Both lab and clinic had everyone in wearing shoe covers. Everything seemed sterile! They first consulted us with quality and up-to-date information. This way they earned our attention and compelled us to pass treatments with them. The owner of the clinic manages the business aspect of the clinic properly surely. All their plans are well thought out, suitable for every pocket and requirements. Health care is an honorable cause. Helping people cope with their conditions has always been one of the cornerstones of social responsibility. Patients who learn about the clinic from the Internet cannot judge it by the actual professionalism of doctors or effectiveness of their prescriptions. So they have to search for other sources to make sure they’re on the right way. The same was with us. We were serfing different boards, talking to more people discussing their experience with biotexcom. And to our amazement there were loads of posts, mostly saying the clinic is gonna be the right place for surrogacy. We also read info from blogs and contacted some of the authors for more insight. Amazing people they are–those taking their time to share their success stories and giving hope and good advice to others. So coming back to our first visit to the clinic, with the 1st step made we felt it does stand out!!! Just like from the pictures- pure, clean, comfrortable, promising…Only positive memories surely.
Is this biotex com you’re using, right?? If so, than it’s really hard to think of any better idea. They’ve got LOADS of pros. All their packages are all-inclusive. Meaning they include: Accommodation. Meals. Medical procedures and medications. Medical and psychological examination of the surrogates. Payments to the surrogate. Transfers to and from the airport and the clinic. Donor eggs if needed – for no additional price!! Interpreter with you at the clinic on every visit. Legal help to obtain documents for the baby after it is born. Monthly ultrasound reports with pictures of your baby. English speaking coordinator who is considered to be your point of contact at the clinic. Moreover, all packages are paid in 5 intallments!! No need to pay the whole money sum at once. The last 2 installments are paid after the birth of your baby! Needless to say their ”guaranteed” refund if no luck. This does blew away.
I’m here to ancounter of testicular biopsies which may yield less DNA damaged sperm (But the technique is very invasive and unproven for this indication). One of the most common reasons why IVF is unsuccessful, or why implantation failure or miscarriages occur, is because of chromosomal abnormalities in the embryo. It is also the function of the uterus to reject some embryos that are abnormal so while implantation failure is deﬁned medically as a normal part of life it is emotional devastating. If the cells of an embryo contain the wrong number of chromosomes, either too many or too few, this is called aneuploidy. which can cause an embryo to not develop normally. There are so many things to keep in mind and probably the most important is to remain realistic over the treatment steps.
It is hard to determine the exact reason for failure of IVF. But even an idea of the possible cause of failure - age, quality of eggs/sperm, health of uterus, etc. All this could help in planning the treatment in a way that tackles the very problem and allows for better chances of success. Usually patients keep insisting on using their own eggs, or going for the treatment in a certain manner. even after several failed attempts at IVF. Honestly, sometimes it works. But if your IVF has not resulted in success after many attempts, it might be an indication for change of strategy. If the eggs produced are not enough, a change in medication protocol might help. If you have PCOS or thyroid problems, you might be asked to see an endocrinologist to bring your hormones to a normal level. so as to prepare the body for a healthy pregnancy. Failure of IVF is hard on every person, but it happens either because the embryos you are producing are not healthy or your body is not ready to carry a pregnancy. Anyway, do not despair!! Choose a competent, experienced infertility specialist who can take you closer to looking for the reasons for failure of IVF in your case. and provide you with solutions that can take you closer to having your baby.
Our Dr Julia Kotlik at BioTex explained that the age of the woman, the health of uterus, and the ways her body responds to IVF medications also play a great role in IVF success. Normally, a woman’s ovary will release one egg a month - From a collection that is fixed at birth. It is known to decline sharply after the mid 30s. Before an IVF cycle, medications are given to get the ovaries to produce more eggs. If you already have a reduced number of eggs or have elevated FSH levels, your body might not respond properly to IVF medications, which is not a good sign. The sperm and eggs both have specific receptors on their surface that allow for their interaction. However, barring chromosomal factors, sperm are usually not the among the reasons for failure of IVF. Because any quantitative or qualitative problems with the sperm are easily detected during semen analysis. In this case the patients are given the option of ICSI or IVF with donor sperm. The rate of chromosomal abnormalities in human embryos is one of the major factors for IVF failure though. Various studies have shown that the rate of chromosomal abnormalities in human eggs start to increase after the mid 30s. IVF with self-eggs in women over 40 years of age is known to result in poor quality embryos, almost 75% of which are chromosomally abnormal. Hence, the low rate of IVF success in older women. Chromosomal anomalies in the sperm can also lead to chromosomally abnormal embryos but that incidence is reported to be small at 1% to 2% of cases as compared to about 20-90 per cent of human eggs. The chromosomal competence of an embryo can be detected with PGS testing.
We have chosen World center of baby in Ukraine.
If anyone is interested I would like to encourage you to visit their website.
Here it is - https://www.worldcenterofbaby.com
Contacting them is the best decision we have made. It is such a pleasure to talk to our manager.
the girl is amazing at what she’s doing
hey elviapage thanks for your suggestion i will surely contact them as i need them .
Hi, millie1! I’m completely with you. Appreciate the efforts the clinic takes. Here’s what I got to know from one of their youtube videos.~
The fallopian tube is the passageway for the egg to enter the uterus. During ovulation, the egg is released from the ovary and picked up by the fimbriae, which look like fingers at the end of the fallopian tube. The egg then starts its 3-day journey to the uterus. It stays in the end of the tube for the first day, where it can be fertilized if it meets sperm that traveled up through the cervix, through the uterus, and out into the fallopian tube. The fertilized embryo begins dividing and travels in the fallopian tube to enter the uterus, where it will stay for another 3 days or so before implanting.
One more thing to add. The test to determine whether your fallopian tubes are open is HSG. This test places dye through the cervix, into the uterus, and out through the tubes. An x-ray is used to see whether the dye was able to travel out through the tubes, showing that they are open. If both fallopian tubes are damaged or blocked, the egg and sperm cannot find each other. Blocked fallopian tubes prevent natural conception, but IVF can bypass the tubes. During IVF, the ovaries are stimulated to produce several eggs. The eggs are then retrieved using a short procedure under anesthesia. They are then fertilized in the laboratory. Created embryos are placed into the uterus through the cervix. so the fallopian tubes are bypassed all together.
Fallopian tubes can be damaged in many different ways. If the furthest end of the tube is blocked, then the tube cannot pick up an ovulated egg. This may also cause the tube to collect fluid and dilate, creating what is known as a hydrosalpinx. It is important to know if your blocked tubes created a hydrosalpinx, because the fluid that collects inside can decrease your chance of successful pregnancy with IVF by about 50%. If your doctor finds a hydrosalpinx, they may recommend that you have the tube removed or blocked using a surgical procedure, so that the fluid from the hydrosalpinx does not communicate with the uterus. Damaged fallopian tubes may sometimes be partially open. This can increase your risk of an ectopic pregnancy, or a pregnancy that implants outside the uterus. The fallopian tube is the most common place for an ectopic pregnancy to grow. An ectopic pregnancies can be dangerous if it grows large enough to cause heavy bleeding, and so in almost all cases it should be removed using surgery or medication.
At Bio tex com they pay attention to every detail which can cause you troubles. Being in good hands does make wonders! We conceived our baby#2 after IVF (I’m currently in the 1st trimester). Am so dedicated to their videos - those are really awesome sources of information!
Thank you for your informative post.
Hi, got some news to share. Biotex clinic introduced their unique treatment method, called mitochondria replacement therapy. Mitochondrion is one of the most important components of any living cell, including the egg. In simple words, mitochondrion is the cell’s energy station. Essentially, its work consists in supplying the cell with vital energy for its normal functioning. Mitochondria donation is a unique ART means, which is basically the implantation of a healthy and functionally active donor mitochondria into the cells of an infertile patient, that provides the patient’s cell with the necessary energy and contributes to successful pregnancy. I read a lot about DNA, talked to the doctors about that and they explained that, actually, Mitochondrial DNA and Human DNA are slightly different things. It only gives that necessary energy to the oocyst and helps with developing an embryo and make it stronger. DNA is in the core of the mitochondria, which are not used for donation. Therefore, genetically, mitochondria have no effect on the embryo. You may look for details on biotexcom.com.
Anyway, good for you for letting your hair down. This journey can be so depriving of yourself you deserve some treats! Take care x
I’ve already read about this treatment method of theirs. Just the way you’ve explained, thanks. I’ve already posted on another thread I’m going to get in touch with our manager at bio tex com and ask her for details. I mean, costs, requirements etc. I think the eggs should be specifically tested for this mitochondria replacement therapy. I believe if the own eggs are damaged genetically etc. they understandably cannot be used for it…Anyway, it’s good we can at least hope we can keep genetic relation to our kids. I myself used donor egg for IVF and am currently pregnant. I’m in the 3rd trimester already. But still if we decide one day we want more kids and return to this very place, I’m sure we’ll ask for this procedure from the very beginning. Time is bad advisor though. I don’t think my eggs will work out the miracle in a couple of years, but who knows…what if our kind dr tells us we’re able to undergo this unique by now procedure?..Time will show. I’m happy we’ve been with them. Because they know the field perfectly well. It was like being in good hands and being taken care of 24/7 during all the treatment plan.
Sounds quite good. We should always keep realistic about the treatments outcomes. That’s why it’s useful to be aware of possible complications along with treatments benefits. Complications of infertility treatment may include:
Multiple pregnancy. The most common complication of infertility treatment is a multiple pregnancy - twins, triplets or more. Generally, the greater the number of fetuses, the higher the risk of premature labor and delivery, as well as problems during pregnancy such as gestational diabetes. Babies born prematurely are at increased risk of health and developmental problems. Talk to your doctor about ways to prevent a multiple pregnancy before you begin treatment.
Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS). Fertility medications to induce ovulation can cause OHSS, in which the ovaries become swollen and painful. Symptoms may include mild abdominal pain, bloating and nausea that lasts about a week, or longer if you become pregnant. Rarely, a more severe form causes rapid weight gain and shortness of breath requiring emergency treatment.
Bleeding or infection. As with any invasive procedure, there is a rare risk of bleeding or infection with assisted reproductive technology.
Also shattered emotional well being which needs to be corrected by all means.
One should think twice and discuss things well with their doctors.
The very first solution would be Applying for the expert’s help! Be ready to answer questions to help your doctor quickly determine next steps in making a diagnosis and starting care. Possible questions for the couple include:
How long have you been actively trying to get pregnant? How frequently do you have intercourse? Do you use any lubricants during sex? Do either of you smoke? Do either of you use alcohol or recreational drugs? How often? Are either of you currently taking any medications, dietary supplements or anabolic steroids? Have either of you been treated for any other medical conditions, including sexually transmitted infections? Are you exposed through your work or lifestyle habits to chemicals, pesticides, radiation or lead?
If you’re a man, you might be asked:
Do you have any difficulties putting on muscle or do you take any substances to increase muscle mass? Do you ever notice a fullness in the scrotum, particularly after standing for extended periods of time? Do you experience any testicular or post-ejaculatory pain? Have you had any sexual problems, such as difficulty maintaining an erection, ejaculating too soon, not being able to ejaculate or reduced sexual desire? Have you conceived a child with any previous partners? Do you regularly take hot baths or steam baths?
If you’re a woman, you might be asked:
At what age did you start menstruating? What are your cycles typically like? How regular, long and heavy? Have you ever been pregnant before? Have you been charting your cycles or testing for ovulation? For how many cycles? What is your typical daily diet? Do you exercise regularly? How much? Has your body weight recently changed?
Adding all of the needed analyses and examinations on both, on the basis of which your fertility expert/clinic will create the best treatment plan for you.