Now surrogacy only :-(


#41

Hi, thank you very much.
I hope I’ll be the best mother in the world.
My plans, hm, well, the first and the most important thing is the next ultrasound. I really really want to see my baby.
oh, nearly forgot to mention her blood test showed that we would be parents of one child. But I’m ok with it. I’m just praying for a healthy baby and that’s all.
As we told we could see our surrogate after 12 week’s scan, can’t stand waiting this time. I’m nervous and excited.
p.s. how are you dear? It’s been a long time since we’ve talked.


#42

[QUOTE=“Gwineth, post: 1870571, member: 87471”]While you are right I think that we should not expect clinics to care about their clients THAT much. It is obvious that the best ones out of them will be doing their best in order to help the clients and after that to support the clients and maybe be there for them after all. But most of the clinics are just businesses.

Oh, I have seen that not only fertility treatments are getting more expensive but some regions and countries ban them and there’s less of the options with every year. [/QUOTE]
I thought of it. I’m afraid that in some 10 years we’ll have just a few countries in the world dealing with fertility treatment. And if so, I can imagine prices for such treatment. people will have no other choice and would have to pay as much as the are told. Eery…
P.S. have you chosen a name for your babes?


#43

well, we are luckier than others, I must admit. as we have a lot of options laying in front of us, still, some people cannot just go and sign with Ukrainian clinic like us, they might be very doubtful or have some other reasons to not do that but overall they are trapped in the situation they’re in right now. and it is a shame that some countries treat those people and us too like we do not count as human beings. as if we were meat with no brains.
Of my kid! No, not yet, well, we have been thinking about one or two names. :slight_smile:
can you advise me on the name for my bby? like it’d be awesome


#44

[QUOTE=“ladybird345, post: 1870572, member: 87389”]Hi, thank you very much.
I hope I’ll be the best mother in the world.
My plans, hm, well, the first and the most important thing is the next ultrasound. I really really want to see my baby.
oh, nearly forgot to mention her blood test showed that we would be parents of one child. But I’m ok with it. I’m just praying for a healthy baby and that’s all.
As we told we could see our surrogate after 12 week’s scan, can’t stand waiting this time. I’m nervous and excited.
p.s. how are you dear? It’s been a long time since we’ve talked.[/QUOTE]
I hope so too!
That’s so nice! Your desire to see your kids, this is what a true heart of a woman is. YOu deserve being a mother more than anyone else hun :slight_smile:
Well, this 12 weeks thing is strange but I hope that they are passing quickly for so in a short time you’ll see your sm and bby and will be happy!
I am fine thank you, just sitting here reading your comments and enjoying my life :3


#45

I agree there’s a bit of business in the sphere of infertility now… and within some of the fertility clinics in particular. But there’s nothing strange about that I think… we are living in the times when everything material matters much more than anything else… that’s especially evident in hte countries with low GDP level… Humans factor affects the process too much in the case… since there’s no space for charity or great sympathy to others when your closest people suffer


#46

[QUOTE=“Gwineth, post: 1870579, member: 87471”]I hope so too!
That’s so nice! Your desire to see your kids, this is what a true heart of a woman is. YOu deserve being a mother more than anyone else hun :slight_smile:
Well, this 12 weeks thing is strange but I hope that they are passing quickly for so in a short time you’ll see your sm and bby and will be happy!
I am fine thank you, just sitting here reading your comments and enjoying my life :3[/QUOTE]
sorry, what do you mean by 12 weeks thing is strange? I was insuring than everything is going to be ok with my little baby. They told first trimester is the most important and they will take care of our surrogate. I clearly understand that and respect their position. honestly I don’t want to hurt my baby and a surrogate with tons of questions and skype calls. that’s why I decided to wait a bit. if they told I would be able to see her after 12 weeks so let it be


#47

[QUOTE=“Petricker, post: 1870569, member: 87370”]My congrats ladybird! Awesome news!:wink:
I can only imagine how hard it was to wait for any results. Hopefully it ended up in pregnancy, it’s so delightful.
What are your plans for future? I mean, do you realize the changes you are to face whe your baby(s) is born? What was your SM’s hcg level? What if you have twins?
Fingers crossed for successful stages of your SM’s prehnancy. Soon you’ll hear your baby’s heartbeat…oooh[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure whether I already responded to your questions. well, first of all thanks for asking. it means a lot to me. my plans, no we are waiting for our first scan, then 12 week one, a meeting with the surrogate. no, we would be parents of one child but I’m ok with this news. I was praying for a healthy baby and god gives he or she to me.
I’m so excited about everything, can’t stand waiting. even my toes crossed for this pregnancy


#48

[QUOTE=“ladybird345, post: 1870594, member: 87389”]I’m not sure whether I already responded to your questions. well, first of all thanks for asking. it means a lot to me. my plans, no we are waiting for our first scan, then 12 week one, a meeting with the surrogate. no, we would be parents of one child but I’m ok with this news. I was praying for a healthy baby and god gives he or she to me.
I’m so excited about everything, can’t stand waiting. even my toes crossed for this pregnancy[/QUOTE]
oh right, you haven’t seen your surrogate mother, right? Do want to meet her? Aren’t you afraid of setting affections upon her? Maybe it will be more difficult to take your baby from her when time comes. I don’t know for sure, of course, it’s your business though.
You didn’t mention her hcg level, I’m very curious. I wish you nothing but patience now. It’s difficult to live in a constant waiting, I know it personally. I hope your surrogate mother is a good girl and she’ll have healthy pregnancy. Don’t forget to keep us updated xxx


#49

[QUOTE=“Gwineth, post: 1870578, member: 87471”]well, we are luckier than others, I must admit. as we have a lot of options laying in front of us, still, some people cannot just go and sign with Ukrainian clinic like us, they might be very doubtful or have some other reasons to not do that but overall they are trapped in the situation they’re in right now. and it is a shame that some countries treat those people and us too like we do not count as human beings. as if we were meat with no brains.
Of my kid! No, not yet, well, we have been thinking about one or two names. :slight_smile:
can you advise me on the name for my bby? like it’d be awesome[/QUOTE]

You are definitely right. Sorry that we can’t rely on medicine in our countries. Where are rom by the way? The way we are treated in different places is a quite problematic issue. many women are scared of fertility treatment because they are sure that it’s just a business while they need care, attention and support. But who cares? We are really lucky ones.
Oh, right, you have a boy :). If I had a boy I’d give him one of these names: Lucas, Alexander or Stefan. Maybe you like any of them


#50

For now, I live in the US and even though I travel a lot of medications are always really expensive and you cannot really find anything that cheap or even the process of buying the meds can take you longer than a week or even a month. I thought at first that it was only my issue but turns out there are many women who are in the same boat with me.
To be quite honest, it is a business. everyone needs to eat something, don’t you agree? but the difference lies in the way they manage the clinics, by them I mean those people who open clinics or centers and try to gain some money. preferably big money. so it is vital to look deeper and judge by the details.
I think that Alexander is a very cute name! I was thinking about it earlier on, Alex… sounds great! xxx
PS How are you???


#51

Well, I agree that it is important to take care of your baby even starting from the very beginning but for me, it is strange that you have no chance of meeting your surrogate mother while she’s yet to achieve her 13 weeks of pregnancy. maybe it is because it is quite far from my understanding at all like I am not a pro in surrogacy and do not know that much but if it helps to ensure that your child is safe and your surrogate mother is happy and healthy - then that’s justified.

Anyways, never mind, I am just acting stupid here. Good luck on your way to meet your child!


#52

But even though this is all about material stuff that does not mean that it affects badly the most important stuff. There are things like love and hope and friendship, family also. And if we talk specifically about fertility clinics and the business of this kind we should all admit that even though people make money out of our infertility issues but at the same time they help us get there, get our dreams, make them reality. Which is amazing imo


#53

[QUOTE=“Gwineth, post: 1870603, member: 87471”]Well, I agree that it is important to take care of your baby even starting from the very beginning but for me, it is strange that you have no chance of meeting your surrogate mother while she’s yet to achieve her 13 weeks of pregnancy. maybe it is because it is quite far from my understanding at all like I am not a pro in surrogacy and do not know that much but if it helps to ensure that your child is safe and your surrogate mother is happy and healthy - then that’s justified.

Anyways, never mind, I am just acting stupid here. Good luck on your way to meet your child![/QUOTE]
oh no, I’m not talking about myself ^) sorry for confusing you. I told in general, my contract says we are able to see our surrogate after 12 weeks of her pregnancy.
Me too, I just told what I heard. The first trimester of every pregnancy is the most important period of time. No one wants to be the reason of failure. That’s why clinic takes care of the surrogates till the end of 12 weeks. I totally understand them. To my mind, that’s great. it means there are no worries at all. in any case we will be informed about changes of her health condition.


#54

I heard about stories when women gave a large part of their lives to their round-endless treatment. And how much health It took from them. Only god knows. I’d be afraid of losing my health’s resource without getting a result. So I think you are absolutely right.

It mainly depends on a clinic. If a woman picked the right IVF center, she would increase her chances for a positive outcome. A few friends of mine even travelled to Gdansk, cos of prof. Lukas*uk, who is absolutely first-class specialist in the field of ivf and PGS NGS. Ladies got pregnant on their 1st try, and have been happy with treatment and service.


#55

[QUOTE=“ladybird345, post: 1870607, member: 87389”]oh no, I’m not talking about myself ^) sorry for confusing you. I told in general, my contract says we are able to see our surrogate after 12 weeks of her pregnancy.
Me too, I just told what I heard. The first trimester of every pregnancy is the most important period of time. No one wants to be the reason of failure. That’s why clinic takes care of the surrogates till the end of 12 weeks. I totally understand them. To my mind, that’s great. it means there are no worries at all. in any case we will be informed about changes of her health condition.[/QUOTE]
That’s why I was really happy to be accepted for ivf treatment. Even if it was egg donation! I was not lucky enough to have the chance to get pregnant and carry my own child all over again. It is an incredible feeling and I am upset for those who cannot experience this.

When we only began looking for ivf options I was really devastated but then again I thought that ivf is over for me and that I am acting crazy but I was accepted by my clinic and I totally appreciate their decision to take me in their program. However, they are situated in Ukraine and it is insane travelling back and forth but the moment you get your bfp you’re done and can enjoy your life (I saw their statistics on the web-site, it is amazing how many couples fly over there). I am only talking about this because surrogacy seems so far away from me and judging about it from my point of view it seems too strict and does not give a lot of space to move. But of course I agree that first trimester of pregnancy is full of risks and you should be careful

That’s why my clinic supplied me with vitamins and did give me another set of meds so my body is not stressed after I suddenly stop stimulating. It is important to have a lot of time off and not to be stressed however it is very subjective, a lot of women are lucky to have beautiful and healthy kids even if they drink a lot of coffee and smoke which should be banned and punished, this behavior when you’re pregnant.


#56

That’s true, picking the right clinic is very important!
that’s why you should not only do a proper research but maybe get some help and consultation with the specialists. there are some organizations that specialize in consulting people on this matter.
I myself have chosen one Ukrainian clinic, biotexcom, because they give you guarantees not only when it comes to surrogacy but also when we’re talking about egg donation ivf/


#57

[QUOTE=“Gwineth, post: 1870602, member: 87471”]For now, I live in the US and even though I travel a lot of medications are always really expensive and you cannot really find anything that cheap or even the process of buying the meds can take you longer than a week or even a month. I thought at first that it was only my issue but turns out there are many women who are in the same boat with me.
To be quite honest, it is a business. everyone needs to eat something, don’t you agree? but the difference lies in the way they manage the clinics, by them I mean those people who open clinics or centers and try to gain some money. preferably big money. so it is vital to look deeper and judge by the details.
I think that Alexander is a very cute name! I was thinking about it earlier on, Alex… sounds great! xxx
PS How are you???[/QUOTE]

oh I see. I didn’t think that there are difficulties with buying meds. thought you just come to a chemist and that’s it.
can’t stop being astonished at all things we have to go through. seems like everyone wants to make it tough.
however, I agree that it’s a business but we need care so right you are - details make difference.
Alex sounds sweet although it’s widely spread.

I’m alright, booked flight to Kiew for Monday. So soon ans so exciting…HOw are you?


#58

I am also doing great! Reading, breathing fresh air, talking to people :slight_smile:
I think of maybe creating my own blog and writing down my every day routines and other things? what do you think?:slight_smile:
oh well, the only thing I do not care about is whether the name is known or not, I like it and that’s what matters the most.
well, yeah, it is not only expensive but time-consuming.


#59

[QUOTE=“Gwineth, post: 1870625, member: 87471”]That’s why I was really happy to be accepted for ivf treatment. Even if it was egg donation! I was not lucky enough to have the chance to get pregnant and carry my own child all over again. It is an incredible feeling and I am upset for those who cannot experience this.

When we only began looking for ivf options I was really devastated but then again I thought that ivf is over for me and that I am acting crazy but I was accepted by my clinic and I totally appreciate their decision to take me in their program. However, they are situated in Ukraine and it is insane travelling back and forth but the moment you get your bfp you’re done and can enjoy your life (I saw their statistics on the web-site, it is amazing how many couples fly over there). I am only talking about this because surrogacy seems so far away from me and judging about it from my point of view it seems too strict and does not give a lot of space to move. But of course I agree that first trimester of pregnancy is full of risks and you should be careful

That’s why my clinic supplied me with vitamins and did give me another set of meds so my body is not stressed after I suddenly stop stimulating. It is important to have a lot of time off and not to be stressed however it is very subjective, a lot of women are lucky to have beautiful and healthy kids even if they drink a lot of coffee and smoke which should be banned and punished, this behavior when you’re pregnant.[/QUOTE]
you are totally right, a reproductive medicine is a hard issue to accept in any case. no one wants to be in our shoes and it’s obvious. I see a lot of women struggling with infertility and they have no chances to deal with it. Sometimes I think it’s unfair, other who lead unhealthy lifestyle have children, how it could be. What is God’s purpose there, why he punishes those who are dreaming of babies all adult lives. it’s horrible, but I’m thankful for docs who help us.
at first I thought I would never overcome a feeling my baby will live under other woman’s hear, but I was wrong. When you have a strong desire the rest means nothing to you.
yes, my clinic controls all surrogates, they are checking every month, they eat healthy food, sleep well and have a lot of free time. I believe my babies are spending a great time with the surrogate. of course it quite different from egg donation and harder at the same time, it takes a lot of nerves and time but it worth everything


#60

but I think that everyone has chances to deal with infertility as you have said. I think that there is an option for everyone. Like ivf, egg donation, surrogacy or adoption. Or if you are not a fan of any of the above you can just help kids by donating money, clothes, toys, books. there are plenty of ways to interact with kids and to have kids that we can consider. so it is not that they cannot do anything with infertility, they can and the majority is working on their lives. You know, I had secondary infertility and it did break my heart when I found out that I can no longer have kids but I do not want to blame anyone else and get jealous over the fact that there are people who have kids born without any struggles. I think that the sole fact that they give birth to children is amazing and kids deserve to get to know this world!
you are so cute talking about your kids! i can feel your mother vibes and it is amazing! wait, is it all like in the video about surrogates I have seen on their youtube channel? I thought they were exaggerating lol